http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/forums/show/5.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net My son is currently interested in getting a international moth if he can get to uni.But i want to make sure that it is right for him.
Is there any chance that anyone knows of a willing person to allow him to have a go.
We live in the Banbury Area

Many Thanks
Dave Harris]]> http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/29/135.page http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/29/135.page GMT
Phil Stephenson kindly reported the state of play after the AGM in his opinion. Until the minutes are published or others add to this then it is the best summery we have of the meeting:

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No decision was made at the AGM but a heated discussion took place with strong polarized views about evenly mixed. Most anti wing sentiment came from part of the majority AUS attendees. An informal vote was taken of the country reps present and again the vote was balanced evenly. AUS and GBR voted against I think.

There is strong sentiment about cost, durability and convenience of storage and transport. But there is also strong sentiment about the moths being an open development class and this is why they have become so great in 2011.

If wings are to be accepted though, a significant number were against the two or three element design as being outside the one sail rule and tradition.

Mark announced that Adam May has formed a committee of measurers and techno nuts who will be drafting rule proposals for members to vote on two issues. What the committee are considering doing is offer two proposals for voting.

One will be to revise the existing rules and measurement procedures so that all rigs, including boltrope, pocket luff, wing/sail combos, and full wings can be measured equitably. This most likely will mean that the some definitions will change, eg the luff length rule will also cover leading edge length of wing masts and wings. We will need to address how we treat the bits between the wing section and the deck, or any other spars which do not work as sail area. it has to be spelt out. The ISAF Sail Area Measurement Manual (SAMM) is the best starting point but we need to add things about what gets measured and how big it is allowed to be. This is needed not to allow wings to be measured but also to allow a lot of other rigs to be measured equitably with what we know as standard rigs now. Revisions like this have happened every couple of years and Adam initiated discussion on this subject in the middle of 2010. It was however put asside to allow the wing issue to be handled by the limited resources and time available.

The second proposal will be to decide if the class wishes to ban wing rigs, even if they can be measured under proposal 1. This has been necessary because of the strong fore and against sentiments expressed by members since late 2010.

The class has always been an open development class which allows everything which is not specifically banned. The Dec 2010 ISAF ruling on Bora's wings was that it was not banned but that the class measurement rules and restrictions did not allow it to be measured. The first proposal will address this and other long standing issues. ISAF specified that Bora's wings be measured by the ISAF SAMM and re adoption of the manual which was deleted from our rules in 2005 for various reasons unrelated to today's issues, looks like the best option.

The second proposal will give the members the opportunity to ban something specific which will be added to the very short banned list todate comprising Trapezes, sliding seats, multihulls and stand up/hand held (sailboard type) rigs.

Adam's group have not yet drafted or even discussed properly what will be in the proposals so what I have said here can be taken as only my opinion and what everyone will see in a couple of month might be vastly different.
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Those of us who were not able to attend the Worlds have seen the wing from a far and got a slightly better understanding thanks to the US team. Bruce has a nice write up which gives some further insight here: http://www.teknologika.com/mothblog/welcome-to-wing-camp/

The rules committee will do their work and will not be able to share it here but I hope we can discuss the issues in an informative way to try and reduce the polarization and make a good informative views that will be represented at the AGM though the National Presidents. I for one am not sure of the best course of action on this and so I would like to discuss and think about it more before I decide.

All the best,

Doug



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What are the max speeds of Lowrider moths?
I come from windsurfing also have a good experience sailing older mini6.50 transat sailboat.
I weight 90kg, will it be fun to sail a moth just for fun,no regattas becouse of my weight.

Thanks

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I am not an expert sailor but have some experience with various types of boats, including laser boat.

I would like to learn how to sail a flying moth without first making the big investment of purchasing one. Is there a way to do that, for example places which you know where one can rent a flying moth or take an intensive one week training camp?

I am living in Switzerland but would be willing to travel to reach the place/school.

Thank you very much for your help!

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We've had this debate for several times now and both parties have valuable arguments.

It is true that somebody with deep pockets or a big sponsor behind him may show up with a whole bunch of different rigs and foils, giving him a potential advantage over the ordinary Joe who only has a little pocket money to spend and therefore must scrimp and save to purchase his equipment. Hence at first glance it looks like a one equipment rule could provide for equal opportunities.

Actually I doubt this.

Every buck that someone is willing and able to spend is an advantage over those who don't or can't, even if you prohibit the use of several different foils, masts or sails for different weather conditions. What do you want to undertake against people buying two sails and using one of them for training and the other - which then is still in brand new condition - for racing? Even the possession of spare parts that could be used legally if officially permitted by the race committee (let's assume the part in question was in fact accidentally damaged and not deliberately destroyed to be allowed to change equipment which is a further topic) is an advantage over those who would have to try and fix their one and only existing part - if possible at all! With a spare foil or mast up one's sleeve one can quickly replace the broken one and be back on the course for the next heat.

Cookie raised an important issue: Support boats are indeed unsporty in my opinion and unlike a one equipment rule I would surely support an attempt to ban them from the race course.

Ole GER-1045]]> http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/14/54.page http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/14/54.page GMT
Basically I cannot tack, the boat just stops when it reaches irons, and it just wont tack. And foiling well I get some speed and the boat wont lift-up, and once the boat leans to leeward it is almost impossible to flatten it out let alone lean to windward.

Would greatly appreciate some sailing tips on tacking and lifting the boat out of the water.

Thank you all for your advice.]]> http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/13/53.page http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/13/53.page GMT I'm in trouble to get the sail number. I'm in France with a new moth Sphinx-Colibri model, but there is no way to contact my IMCA delegation here. The french class look stuck and I can't get informations from them.
So, questions are, how can I get my sail number? and how can I get my ISAF plaque?

This boat is a professional construction but the architect don't know the rules to do these stuffs.

I hope I'm enough clear and I hope someone can help me.

thank you,

Jean-Marie Clement]]> http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/10/45.page http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/10/45.page GMT http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/3/22.page http://www.moth-sailing.org/imca/faces/posts/preList/3/22.page GMT
Please do not fill up the forum with lots of tests. If you want to test something then please keep all test messages in this thread.

If you have any questions, bugs, feedback, requests, complaints etc please contact me: doug at culnane dot net or post them in this thread.

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